Matt et al, I too was thinking of if/where/how we might migrate our other mailing lists as you have listed and while we are at it I suggest we should have a wider look at our IT services.  Carl said that he's planning to move everything off his home server so imho it's timely to identify all the CRARC services we have on server.carl.home and decide where they should go.

Firstly, Carl has taken the lead on VK1-News and the VK1-Reflector and the *@groups.io option seems like an ideal destination.  So what else does CRARC have by the way of IT/internet services?

Mailing lists:

wicen@crarc.ampr.org wicen-members@crarc.ampr.org education@crarc.ampr.org membership@crarc.ampr.org committee@crarc.ampr.org Any others I've missed?

At first glance, all of these lists (with the exception of committee@) are in limited use by which I mean that a change in email address would not cause major disruption.  The WICEN addresses are mostly used for outgoing emails to WICEN volunteers when planning WICEN events and are otherwise inactive.  The education one is used for our education ppl to share relevant info and it is also a contact email address for incoming queries from anyone who finds it on the website or elsewhere - a change could be managed.  I publicise the membership address to help me sort incoming correspondence relevant to membership and most corresp is in response to a request from me (usually to pay membership fees) so no problem if it changes.  But the committee one is the main contact email address for the club committee and we have actively promoted its use widely for incoming correspondence (over PO Box 600) and a change of the committee email address would have to be done slowly and carefully to avoid loss of important correspondence.

So on the surface it seems to me that groups.io lists would do the job of the WICEN lists, education and membership without much grief in changing over, the committee one is a more difficult matter.

Leaving that thought hanging, I have couple of qn:

1. Is is possible, at least in the interim, to retain the list email addresses above and have them forward to a groups.io list for list management and email distrib?  That way the 'public facing' email addresses would remain unchanged but the back end distrib function would be done by groups.io.

2. IIRC we have the crarc.org.au domain reserved for future use. Would this be a good time to start migrating to that domain for email addresses and web services if the original plan was for this to happen one day?

3. If a domain migration is desirable, can we migrate the above email distrib lists slowly to, eg, wicen@crarc.org.au and so on while using groups.io as the back end?

4. Would the use of groups.io solve or exacerbate the problem we experience where emails from some senders (notably airservices and Paypal) pass thru' our current mailing list server and are then rejected by gmail and sometimes bigpond?

5. How does groups.io handle spam? -------------------------------------------------------------

And to return to the list of IT services on Carl's home server, I think we have:

www.crarc.ampr.org - our website File repository - I know not what's in it but it gets a mention now and again.  Probably historical material. Anything else?

As we are now using Google Drive for our current document store I suggest that we should do a systematic migration of whatever documents are stored on Carl's server to GD, as we have discussed in committee once or twice.

Feedback invited ...

Graham

On 27/08/2019 7:15 pm, Matt wrote:

All cool – thanks for that Carl. I wasn’t sure what the go was with the reflector so just added it to the list of ones for us to think about it – but more than happy with how it is setup, so backing out on that one!

Matt

VK1MA

*From:*Carl Makin carl@stagecraft.cx *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 August 2019 7:08 PM *To:* Matt doormatt@netspace.net.au *Cc:* CRARC Committee committee@crarc.ampr.org *Subject:* Re: [Committee] CRARC IT changes

Hi Matt,

On 27 Aug 2019, at 6:44 pm, Matt <doormatt@netspace.net.au
<mailto:doormatt@netspace.net.au>> wrote:

On the actual setup of the new groups, I think we need to have a
bit of a think about how we use some of them - for example we have
historically used the vk1-news as a one way broadcast (and the
same for the wicen-members list), the wicen list for higher level
limited access wicen admin and the reflector list for general two
way chit chat for the regional amateurs. I am thinking that we
should probably keep a similar structure for these lists although
I am wondering if the wicen members should become a more
bi-directional chat platform so will have to have a discussion
amongst the wicen organisers to see what the thoughts are on that.

The vk1-news@groups.io mailto:vk1-news@groups.io is configured so only moderators/owners can post.  For the other lists we definitely need to think about how they are used.

Can I ask that for mods, given Phil and myself do most of the
current list admin controlling that Phil and myself initially take
on that role for the groups.io <http://groups.io> side of things
as well and we will expand as needed?

Yourself, Phil and Wade are owners of the vk1-news@groups.io mailto:vk1-news@groups.io list.

I’m the owner of the vk1-reflect@groups.io mailto:vk1-reflect@groups.io list, with Hugh Blemings a moderator, which is how it has been for years.

Carl.

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